Are Sexual Predators, Violent Criminals and Intimidating Alcoholics Anonymous Members Ruining Your Group?

Lately there have been a few stories posted here and on my http://www.leavingaa.com blog as well as on http://www.nadaytona.org and http://www.stinkin-thinkin.com that are just horrific.  These stories are about Sponsor coercion, intimidation, bad 13 stepping aka sexual assault and harassment.

When I first started this blog it was just about bad 13 stepping. But quickly the stories posted to the world …here , along with private emails I received from both men and women who were fed up, left AA, abused, used and disenfranchised filled my file cabinet.

The file is now 2 inches thick with horror stories of all kinds.

Now finally there is something real brewing to defend the innocent from killers, rapists and your garden variety AA fucker who is sexually and financial screwing the regular average AA or NA member.

The tide has turned.

I hope that if any of you have a serious legal gripe with a person in AA/NA, that is non violent, file a civil lawsuit. You do not need a lawyer to file a lawsuit.

If it is violent, please document, contact us, contact the police, but we strongly suggest that you ask them if they are in AA. In fact, during the process, we highly suggest you say to each individual , cop, even a Police Chief, detective, Judge and lawyer…are you in AA/NA? If they are then we suggest you request that someone else handle your case. Then you can say ” It is a conflict of interest”- I need someone else to handle this case for me. Be strong and hold you ground on this one.

This is what happened initially with Jerry Sandusky. The first judge knew him and worked with him personally with at risk teens.  She was thrown off the case and replaced.

Both NA and AA World Head Quarters are non profits and successful. Just like The Boy Scouts of America who was sued.  AA in local areas can be sued if they know this is going on and do nothing.  AA is in NY. NA is in Los Angeles. Area 5 and the West side District was put on notice and they not only ignored us but suppressed us and the truth and did not give us a chance or did they support the few districts who put on MAKE AA SAFER WORKSHOPS. IN fact one area as well as West LA was told that they would not put the flyer about the workshops up on the SO CAL AA website, because  in quotes ” it might hurt the AA name and scare people away”.

Imagine that! They care more about their reputation then member safety.

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7 thoughts on “Are Sexual Predators, Violent Criminals and Intimidating Alcoholics Anonymous Members Ruining Your Group?

  1. What is NOT discussed is the fact there are female predators, criminals and abusers in those rooms also. A woman can get a “get out of jail card”just as easily as a man. I’ve been victimized by women and so have other men in the rooms although I admit there are more men doing it than women. AA protects them too, along with white knights just dying to get in her pants. Women get a free pass at hating men in the rooms and also have been shown to display violent behavior in the meetings. Just thought I’d make you aware of it. Just very grateful I got out of that dysfunctional zoo called AA. Clean and sober and doing OK DESPITE AA.

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    1. Yes Yes I agree. We address this in the film. I think there are many women who are predatory and alot who say horrific things to both men and women andthink they are the QUEEN BEA of AA and know everything. Very abusive verbally. But Predators is what we are talking about and yes there are women. But It more men….but we are not ignoring that issue. Sorry this happened to you as well.

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  2. How do I file a lawsuit without a lawyer? THIS, AS YOU WROTE, QUOTE ” they not only ignored us but suppressed us and the truth and did not give us a chance or did they support the few districts who put on MAKE AA SAFER WORKSHOPS. IN fact one area as well as West LA was told that they would not put the flyer about the workshops up on the SO CAL AA website, because in quotes ” it might hurt the AA name and scare people away”.”……… IS EXACTLY what is going on in Utah County /District 3/AREA 69 AA!!!! When our Back to Basics proposed a workshop on the advise of our deligate, Walter, we started it, but then it was cancelled by our district as TOO CONTROVERSIAL!!!…..and that we were targeting a guy named Tony…..He serves as our PAID central office rep and he has a rep as on of those pervy old timers who 13steps vulnerable newcomer girls- when we told the central office board of directors, they said if the sex didnt happen INSIDE the central office then its an outside issue! Please tell me how to file a lawsuit without a layer? Cher

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    1. CHer- You can always file a lawsuit without a lawyer by going to your Law Library across stye street from your court house. Some Law Student might help you. This is terrible. Lets see.

      Tell them it is happening inside meetings. Woman’s boobs vein grabbed IN A MEETING, Sexually harassed , IN A MEETING. so forth. I would go around them and do it anyway. I have called a lawyer for you and asked him. can you email me privately and I will share what we did and now what I would do differently. They can’t stop you. Document everything. Call NY GSO headquarters and tell them …lets see what they say to you. If they say they have no opinion and each group is autonomous we can talk. Id like to talk to you before that because you don’t need anyones permission to put on a workshop ….but the fact you are getting no support and pushback from you r intergroup is because these guys are the sexual predators ….aka 13 steppers. Maybe you can sue your central office for sexual harassment. DO they have insurance. I know they do ….liability they have….
      call me…I mean …email me then we can talk tomorrow or thursday . Also Go into your service manual and I think its Concept 6 says they are responsible
      for the fellowship world wide. I can send you the info to fight back with . Prepare yourself….they are th emost stubborn and ridge folks I have ever met. And they have been getting away with this stuff for 50 years.

      Tell them sorry boys ..they gig is up its not 1950. LOL 🙂 Sexual Harassment s against the law in the work place.

      makeaasafer@gmail.com please email me here.

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