ALERT- Serious Sexual Predators in Costa Mesa, California- AA, Sex Addiction Meetings and Business Debtors Meetings

It seems that there is a serious situation going on and I want everyone to keep an eye out for each other.

Either the women have your back or get the hell outta Dodge …I say!!!!

This is a blogpost written on a different thread. I think it  belongs on the Front Page. 

Now one more thing. I have my opinion about SLOA. I can’t imagine one saying they are powerless over their sex life. There use to be a word. It was called promiscuous. The blind leading  the blind.

I am WARNING YOU HERE AND NOW> AA< NA, SLOA have become a dumping ground for the courts sending pedophiles, murderers and rapist’s  into rooms that have NO PROTECTION, NO POLICES FOR SAFETY and in fact new comers are the most vulnerable and the PREDATORS know it. There is not one 12 step tradition that OVER RIDES the “LAW” in The United States. NONE! If someone quotes you something from their books from 1939 and 1955, just tell them AA is not a secret society and they all have to abide by the law. That means no harassment of any kind.

That means no sexual innuendoes.  Unwanted advances. Tell your group they must read a warning statement or they can and will be held liable. Even an individual can be sued in civil court and if the harassment still comes after you said to stop it’s time to go to the court and police to file incident reports and restraining orders. Create the paper trail and expect to educate the cops on the 2010 Violence against Women ACT!!!

There are other options besides 12 step. SMART RECOVERY is one. SOS, LIFE RING, Moderation Management, Hams Harm Reduction is another.

For over 25 years, starting with SOS, these other modalities have been around. Google….alternatives to AA.

TELL US YOUR STORY HERE. DO NOT Be a victim and let them bully you.

elizabeth said, on October 13, 2012 at 10:50 pm

My partner, Joseph Lawerence Bourke, has AIDS and is an admitted sex addict AND sits and leads meetings like a sociopath “painting this amazing picture” ….I have a book to write, but put it this way, he is a Predator extreme, claims to have all this time, but he lies about everything else how do we know that is true? But despite the AA Dogma, he is a straight up murderer and has been at it for 20 years and I just saw him last week and confronted him in an alley in Costa Mesa CA and he said “this is my place..” as in, if I came there for
AA …it was a problem..Even though I only ever share in a general way and have not spoke about him there YET..I will :) …He threatened to “knock my teeth down the back of my throat ” if I went there….Because sex addicts and sociopaths feel massive “threat” in their own heads to anyone who reveals the mask they hide under…In this case he is a murderer, so I have to have more balls and I will, f*ck him, I went to the P.D. and have also contacted the FBI as he has a TRAIL of women he is killing and keeps on going..However..I saw a chick with brown hair running after him and she was “all taken” by his bullsh&t and I felt alarmed..I will be goin there next week to warn her…She seems like a nice person…The next target of the sociopath….But when you do try to warn them some of the time? The AA dogma has ME as the crazy one..and him with all of this “supposed time” …as he is a fu*king liar about everything..look at his morals..there are none…and they WANT SO BADLY to believe this so called “guru” …He even :smirked ” at me over it as even he knows…WTF are you supposed to do…other than putting a bullet in this guys a$$…..I am figuring out a plan :) I will be the flea on his ass for enternity as long as he is murdering vulnerable women that do not have their brains yet..Yeah, Dr. Bob and Bill Wilson LOL! Thank God I have a good upbringing and intelligence….We can challenge these losers and maybe help some people for real :) peace, hugs out, liz.

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19 thoughts on “ALERT- Serious Sexual Predators in Costa Mesa, California- AA, Sex Addiction Meetings and Business Debtors Meetings

  1. While you all choose to bash everything that is AA, just remember that many men and women have been helped by the program of AA and continue to live HEALTHY lives. Your focus on the minority speaks more of your inabilities to perhaps actually stay clean and sober by blaming literally millions for the actions of a few. Typical AA haters, thank you for proving your points.

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    1. That’s as asinine as saying since many people with guns have never shot anyone, those who have should get away with it.
      I hope you’re enjoying your ‘Egyptian river’ (sarcasm intended)

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    2. Define your HEALTHY Life Todd!! Cone on let’s hear what you got! Not what AA tells you to say … Tell us in your ‘Own ‘ words ..or do you have to GET DEPROGRAMMED first to think Healthy …oh ya, you can’t answer cuz that’s right your …’Stinkin Thinkin’ is Really Unhealthily. Maybe you should let go and let God ,answer for you ,and you wouldn’t have even POSTED …unless it was to say Amen & Praise you God for the wonderful men and women whom are Courageous enough TO SPEAK IP _ LOUDLY and BOLDLY about the sick behaviors in All 12 step programs ! But even more shameful is that our United States governments as well as other governments ALLOW THIS as well as ‘AID’ it!

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    3. Just one more quick thing Todd. In ‘Love ‘ of the program aren’t you breaking rules getting involved in public controversy .. And just how did you ‘Stumble ‘ upon this site …was your ‘Sight’ just for a moment returned as you took the AA blinders off and did you best thinkin ! God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I can not change .THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN..and the WISDOM to ‘KNOW’ the Difference . So yes thank God MANY are doing ‘the next right thing’, with courage and Wisdom and working towards putting a stop to Rape, Child molestation , perversion, assault, murder,ect in the 12 step programs… Ops, I’m sorry I didn’t mean to offend you Todd , perhaps I should of said 13th step program . As my amends let me give you a gift … 13 Tradition : The welfare and sobriety of the Group and Fellowship far outweighs the sobriety of ANY individual. If the actions of ANY individual, both legal or illegal, jeopardize the sobriety if another, especially newcomers, the group owes the individual actions to protect their sobriety up to and including banishment from the fellowship for offenders, individual counseling is recommended for such unfortunates…Please feel free to share your ‘Gift ‘ of the ‘Suggested’ 13th Tradition with your Local Intergroup office . Im sure they may Thank you , because things were a bit off ‘Balance with a 13th step _ and no 13 th Tradition. GOD’A ,ops Got’a keep the balance now don’t we Todd! May your week be filled with many blessings.

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  2. PS The tools that combat that? Absolute truth, no matter how difficult it is, good people standing up in the face of pure evil an sounding the warning bell to others….Trying to communicate common sense ….Not losing your Faith although these human beings with lack of conscience challenge that to your core with their behavior…and the lack of people that understand that….And just pursuing justice in the face of it all. I think that the real evil with sociopaths is they just don’t care they just “move along” Joe has moved from Laguna Beach, to Irvine,….Up to the Pomona clubs for a while, acted out sociopathically up there and at the pther places….I have all the evidence…And then back to “set up shop in Costa Mesa” this past year where he said it was a “threat”….. odd I know….. if I just went there to an AA meeting…Now, there is NOT ONE PERSON out of thousands I go to meetings with that “thinks” I am a threat as I just who up there…EXCEPT HIM! WONDER WHY! What on EARTH could be sooooo threatening? Myself telling the truth about my life ? Amazing. Even though he has never been called out except between him and I and with a few select people…But I realize I must get ready to LEAD now and just do that…It is what it is, it is the truth , it can save lives. ….. Now, other than holding him accountable in the fair legal way I have never “threatened ” him as he has myself with violence etc…Very odd I know, but sociopaths feel “threatened” when their “image management” comes under threat…Very hard for me to learn but I have had to go and learn as I did not understand the odd behavior of his and why his thought pattern was the way it was…Took a lot of good Psychs and teachers in psychology and a lot of books to “Get it”..It is horrifying nonetheless, even if you have the education as it does not change the face that this predator paints himself as some kind of a nice guy and is burning through so many victims EVEN AS I RECOVERED from him…..Wow….I am writing it all up, I secured http://www.joebourke12steppredator.com and I will post the whole story and people can take from it what they want. I cannot save these women and and their families if there are not a few that what I went through resonates with them. Some it will and the core group of people in life and AA that are good? They will not be able to deny the truth, there will be too many facts and oddities and gross sexual predatory and abusive behavior cited to deny it if you have any sense in your head. Also as a sex addict predator, he can hang in there long enough to “CONVINCE” new comers that he is a “nice guy” and continue his antics..There is a lot of turn over and a lot form some old sick bastard who cannot get his sh!t together in life to sit in there and pretend he is something he is not before they can catch up…….Of course when his long term partner with PTSD with class shows up, of course that is a “threat” 🙂 LOL! OF COURSE IT IS!

    The truth might be told, where is our sociopath going to go then? In the middle of the abuse he said to me ” You better not make me look bad! I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL LEAVE TOWN AND GO BACK TO MISSISSIPI!!!” This was when I was on my knee’s sobbing…I am making HIM look bad? Who says that to someone who has just found out about all of your sexually predatory behavior? He also threatened violence if I said anything…On another point, why does he CARE so much that he looks good in AA and not LOOK GOOD about his own sick behavior? This is what spins my head..

    I guess its time for me to lead some meetings in a calm , dignified truthful manner in Costa Mesa and where ever else he frequents right? Of course it is. The truth is the truth. If I speak about myself and what happened to me? What is he worried about? If he felt bad about it he would not have CONTINUED to do it , taken NO RESPONSIBILITY ANNNNNNNDDDD threatened me with violence to SHUT UP about HIS abuse?

    Come on now Joe, as you said to me with your little AA slogan ” The truth will set you free?” So lets get the truth out MR. talking about God as you left women crying in church you sick F*ck!

    Let’s get it ALL out there. Mr ZERO responsibility sociopath.

    Anyway, I need to make sure I do the right thing in Costa Mesa and protect these women .

    He needs to get his sorry ass back home to Mississipi and sit with his older sister Rose and live out the rest of his time away from damaging people, be jailed or in a psych unit.

    Or is Joe Bourke going to keep “HELPING US ALL” in 12 Step programs? Fucking irresponsible murderous idiot. ? I wonder. Peace out, PS I will be back to report the Costa Mesa mess and how many people he has conned down there at this point….Justice is deserved. e.

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  3. I am not settled inside, something has to be done about this guy. He and he alone could keep his pants on and CARE about women that might recover and want a future with kids and a husband and whatever….RIght now since his broke ass cannot afford prostitues ( I mean that with full respect to these poor women that need help) HE gets up a 6:30 am and runs the sex addicts anon meeting that is MIXED on Fridays in Costa Mesa and says he us HELPING these women…Yet he has played himself as a victim and had sex with a few of them as well MR nice guy right?

    So, he sat in the back alley and said to me when I showed up, keep in mind this is a 52 year old grown man with a son, and a partner with PTSD from his abuse ” I will have prostitutes kick your ass..young ones too..” HUUUH??? 🙂 LOL! Uhhh dude? What? This nutball actually grinned when he said it,. what I took from this was, young vulnerable women are being manipulated , he is using them and endagnering their lives, somewhere in his sociopathic brain he thought I gave a f*ck about what he said..No, I was LARMED for their safety…

    So I emailed the head female of the group to PROTECT THESE WOMEN…Guess what? I think he fu*ked her too! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Is there no end to this sociopathic murderous rampage? Are these people blind? He is RISKING THEIR LIVES! Walks among them as a wolf in sheeps clothing and they are blind..He enjoys this and shows it to me.

    So, at what point do people realize you could not write this if your tried, I feel like I slipped into the twilight zone when I witness this in front of me..At the same time? It only takes ONE sociopath to kill alot of women, I hope my voice will be heard as I attempt to educate the masses. He doesn’t give an F! I do, I care about them, they are victims.

    I guess that is the burden of having a higher conscience in battle with someone with none. Good versus evil in the old sense of the word. ….deep sigh. What a loser. It is no longer “drama” when peoples / womens lives and their families and everyone connected to them in the future …Could be ruined, because of this selfish, selfish pr*ck! I am so sick of his behavior. I feel like offing him myself at times…But my conscience does not allow that ..Funny how that works…A murder vs. a conscience? Well, Joe has enjoyed it and watched the difference between us, the only thing that keeps me sane? God puts us all through trials, there is ALWAYS a higher ground….I will not go down to his level, that is what he wants…..

    Unless you have ever been in this, you will not know what I am saying, so NEVER get into this…But if you do, know that I understand..I am surviving…His is coming.

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  4. I just want to update. Joe Bourke, Joseph Lawerence Bourke, Joseph Bourke…Is a Sociopathic Predator in 12 step Programs.

    How many women over 20 years has he murdered? Driven out of Program or threatened with violence as he did myself, Sylvia ( tatooed on his arm) Olivia Bureula or others? I post today to make a statement that I stand behind what I am saying, have said and will continue to say.

    My PTSD, that I NEVER HAD UNTIL I entered AA and dealt with him, I am STILL dealing with…Lots of money and time and he is culpable. I am not done with holding him accountable.

    I remain resolved to put the accountability where it belongs on him. While I am recovering? We have a trail of new victims I have found. What a sociopath, people need to wake up.

    hugs to you all that support me, I have a lot to give back, it will be on education of sociopathic predators, who would of thought when you went to get sober? 🙂 Yeah! e.

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    1. Hi Elizabeth. Good to see you here again. I am so sorry for the pain and grief you have been subjected to as a result of going to alcoholics anonymous. There are many of these types of men in AA. Have you seen the new post by the women Caroline , from South AMerica?

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  5. I went to Hoag Neuroscience Division of the hospital yesterday, I am seeing an amazing Boarder Psychiatrist who has two conclusions 1.) You have PTSD from he sexual predatory sociopath (after a battery of tests the last month ruling out EVERYTHING else 🙂 2.) You are simply going back to drinking alcohol at times to “cope” / “numb” out this guy…So what do we have here? I am NOT CRAZY! Although my abuser likes to say so and tell everyone I am…Nah, I am a very good person 🙂 Pretty easy to see what is wrong. However here is what I want to do today, write a list of what you get when you hang out with Joseph Lawrence Bourke:

    1.) A Charming nice guy who “cons” you into his story….to get the “pity play”….He is lying.

    2.) You become a target for : money, power (in his own head) , you serve a purpose, or he wants sex

    3.) 12 Steps are a GREAT COVER for his pathology….vulnerable people cannot see through it and he has a network of idiots that have listened o him for years and validate him. On closer inspection by myself? These are not leaders, they just “get to feel that they are” in there as they would not make it in the real world. These people enable this predator.

    4.) Your life and your family will now be at risk

    5.) You will lose money at some point

    6.) You will be exposed to AIDS…Joe keeps several women / realtionships going at once in multiple meetings
    across the board, I lived it almost going into the 4th year now, they are everywhere, most do not know of the others. Why is he using them all? He has no conscience, he is a sociopath, he doesn’t care! They think he does.

    7. ) You will end up disappointed at he least, abandoned, with PTSD like myself as I was around longer, you will have medical bills and all kinds of emotional and psychological issues you never had entering these programs.

    8.) If you are strong enough like I had to be, you will end up in front of law enforcements and comtempaling court actions that are long and tedious, You will fight a sociopath and his sheeple supporters who cannot come to terms with what and who he really is. It is draining.

    9.) Healthy people, will have a hard , even those not in program will have a hard time wrapping their heads around this sociopath.

    10.) You will develop Cognitive Dissonance which is psychologically very painful as your mind kicks in its defense mechanisms to protect you.

    11.) You will have a very hard time staying sober, which is the reason you went to 12 Steps in the beginning as our guru sits there and rambles off about AA and does panels and tells everyone HOW GREAT he is in sobriety…never REALLY telling the truth of what and who he is and what his responsibilities are.

    12.) You will see a cool, calm and collected individual and “think” this is somehow “peace and he is ok with himself at play” and be drawn to it..No, it is LACK OF CONSCIENCE…as in SOCIOPATHY….that is WHY he “appears” calm..as his conscience is not bothering him, he does not have one!

    13.) If you challenge Joe / Sociopath..He will say ” you are threatening me” even when you are not, that is in his own head, his primary goal is : image management” so if you are a victim of abuse and show up to a meeting even if you say nothing you are a THREAT! Odd , I know…I have lived it.

    14.) If you “come to close” even in his own head, of exposing him or talking about your own life?

    Which is really about his violent and predatory acts and lies?

    HE WILL THREATEN YOU WILL VIOLENCE! STRANGLING YOU! BECOME ENRAGE IRRATIONALLY! AND BLAME YOU FOR HIIIISSSS BEEEHAVIORS! HIS OWN BEHAVIORS! Are…somehow your fault.

    15.) He NEVER makes amends.

    16.) He will NEVER apologize

    17.) He is so full of sh!t I am completely AMAZED I am one of the few that see’s it but I do, so proceed at your own risk.

    18.) Keep in mind..The charming mask and the pity play are all for you to be conned…REALITY? talk o the woman that lived with him for almost 3 years…going on 4, ask Slyvia who now has AIDS tatooed on his arm who hates his ass, ask Olivia Burela the 65 now 67 ( I was in my 30’s at the time, Joe 40’s ) that he USED for sex as his neighbor….Look the emails and the pictures I have that he put on my computer when he lived here to all kinds of elderly and vulnerable victims……

    STILL THINK YOU KNOW JOSEPH LAWERENCE BOURKE?

    I will be back, I can write 10000 points about him.

    He is a very sick man..however…That doesn’t stop him killing women and being responsible to any he has damaged already does it?

    Think about it.

    Peace out, e.

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    1. Elizabeth

      You are not alone . There are hundreds of women and men who have been sexually preyed on my old timer AA men.

      There is a huge lawsuit brewing. The days where AA slimbags can do as they please will soon be coming to an end. Hang in there. Speak up like you are and speak out.

      Take care.

      http://www.expaa.org is another great site to find support with your issue.

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  6. This book helped me tremendously, but it explains verbatim why my Partner Joseph acts the way he does. He is not excused from harming people, but I hope this lends some understanding to the moral insanity I have suffered at his hands. Myself and others and he is still doing it. e.

    Psychopaths: Insde the Relationship of Inevitable Harm with Psychopaths, Sociopaths and Narcissists (Mask Publishing, 2009). This is a long title for a book that gets straight point in explaining clearly, for a general audience, the characteristics of dangerous individuals. Dr. Brown explains that dangerous men (and women) suffer from unfixable personality disorders: psychopathy and narcissism in particular. Such individuals have constitutive emotional deficiencies. They can’t form meaningful bonds with others. Although they don’t bond emotionally, they do attach to others. Just as parasites latch on to healthy bodies, so psychopaths latch on to decent human beings to suck the life out of them. If they would be easy to detect, most of us would avoid these social parasites like the plague. Unfortunately, however, psychopaths are social chameleons who can disguise their evil natures. They come across as exceptionally charming, friendly, humorous, kind, entertaining and very romantic. Initially, they appear to be perfect romantic partners. Their glibness and charm, as well as their propensity for deception and disguise, often masks their malicious intent. Psychopaths have no conscience, are impulsive and reward-driven and get bored easily. For such individuals, cheating, lying and hurting others is a pleasurable game: a form of entertainment.

    We often read about psychopaths in the news. Their lack of conscience enables them to commit horrible crimes, including rape, pedophilia and murder. Most psychopaths, however, aren’t hardened criminals. They’re swindlers and love frauds, temporarily attaching to decent human beings to milk them of money, shelter and affection: sometimes, to destroy them. For all practical purposes, how psychopaths became disordered isn’t as important to their victims as the fact that they can’t significantly improve their behavior. Whether they’re evil by nature, nurture, or a combination of both, they will still cheat on you, lie to you, use you, and perhaps even steal your money along with your heart. When involved with a psychopath, Dr. Brown emphasizes, there’s nothing you can do to change him or his disorder.
    The one thing you can-and should do-is save yourself.

    Because psychopaths cause so much harm to society, there are numerous clinical studies of their personality disorder. In addition, the true crime shelves of bookstores are packed with salacious accounts of their misdeeds. But there are practically no comparable studies of their tens of millions of victims. Just do the math. Psychologists estimate that between 1 and 4 percent of the population is psychopathic. This adds up to several million psychopaths in this country alone. Because psychopaths are highly promiscuous and form dozens of relationships, a single psychopath can damage the lives of dozens of women. That’s several million persons hurt, sometimes beyond repair, by the malicious actions of these disordered individuals. In the literature on psychopathy, the victims are often the forgotten part of the equation: even though they outnumber by far the psychopaths themselves. Women Who Love Psychopaths is the most comprehensive study I know of about the female victims, from their own perspective. This book reveals the whole picture: the psychopaths and their hosts.

    Dr. Brown focuses her clinical study on a few dozen women who depict in great detail their horrific experiences with psychopaths. But it’s important to note that these women could be any of us. They weren’t particularly weak, or gullible, or uneducated individuals. On the contrary: this book reveals that the women who fall in love with psychopaths tend to be trusting, accomplished, devoted persons with good characters and high emotional investment in their romantic relationships. Psychopaths prefer to test their strength against strong and moral women, not against those they consider weak or already corrupt. These women became involved with psychopaths because they were initially fooled by their “mask of sanity”: the good image that any psychopath projects to those whom he wants to seduce and use. They fell prey to the ruse not because they were especially naive, but because very little prepares us in life for the kind of person who systematically deceives, uses, exploits and harms others, just for the fun of it and with malice. Statistically, psychopaths are relatively common. But psychologically they’re highly abnormal. We will not be able to identify them or comprehend their malicious motives if our frame of reference is relatively normal human beings. To identify psychopaths and protect ourselves against them, we need to become acquainted with the basics of abnormal psychology.

    Moreover, it’s not easy to see through a psychopath’s mask of sanity before getting burned. This is especially true when the psychopaths themselves are educated, attractive and employed in well-respected professions-as teachers, professors, lawyers, doctors, counselors, therapists or businessmen-which is often the case. Without a basic understanding of personality disorders and awareness of our own vulnerabilities to dangerous individuals, most of us couldn’t spot or defend ourselves against these wolves in sheep’s clothing. This is exactly the invaluable information that Dr. Brown’s book offers us.

    Women Who Love Psychopaths focuses on psychopathy as a relationship between psychopaths and their chosen targets. Looking at psychopaths in isolation is not enough. It doesn’t reveal how they latch on to normal individuals; how they fool us. Without finding numerous willing partners-to dupe, mistreat and use-a psychopath ceases to function. To grasp the danger posed by psychopathic individuals, we therefore need to understand both sides of the coin: the personality traits of the psychopaths themselves as well as our own potential vulnerabilities to psychopathic seduction. Women Who Love Psychopaths reveals this more complete picture. Think about how many self-defense classes are taught in this country. Sadly, there’s no equivalent for psychological defense. This must-read book is about emotional self-defense, which should be our first line of protection against social predators.

    Claudia Moscovici, psychopathyawareness
    If you feel like you’re losing your own grip on reality, take a good, hard look at the person whom you’re closest to. Even though you sense that something is terribly “off” about a person/relationship, the insidious mayhem that psychopaths cause might be difficult to pinpoint. Their ability to subtly provoke twisted mind-games allows them to weave illogical loops of madness around unsuspecting and vulnerable victims. Essentially, they make you feel as though you’re the one who is crazy! The mere fact that such hollow shells of human beings exist is disturbing, but must be acknowledged and dealt with accordingly.

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      1. Elizabeth- damn you are certainly a victim of a sociopath. They seem to flourish in AA and NA meetings. They can charm the pants off of new comers and financially scam at the same time. I would call AA World Services in New York and tell them about who he really is and what danger he presents to members. Document your phone calls.

        I have read many bosses are sociopaths, they charmed their way to the top, and then drive their employees crazy playing head games and holding the power they have over them over their head.

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