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Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous are filled with Sex Offenders and Violent Criminals and 13 stepping Old timers

Posted in 13 Stepping, Exposing AA by Massive on April 24, 2013

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WARNING! If  you did not know this fact:

  • The Courts are sending these men to AA and NA
  • The sexual predator is coming to AA and NA and are targeting vulnerable new woman
  • Old timers are sexually harassing woman and teens. ( DO NOT SEND YOUR TEEN TO AN AA MEETING) try SMART RECOVERY, SOS, or Moderation.org instead. It’s safer.
  • There is no one in charge at any 12 step meeting
  • There is no trained facilitator at any meeting ( even though in some TV shows and FILMS they depict AA to be this way….its NOT!)
  • A sponsor is just a lay person. They have no training. They may be nuts. They maybe a thief. They may be nice. They may be a rapist. They may be a thief.
  • We are getting many complaints about controlling abusive sponsors  and many are leaving now because of this.
  • A young persons meeting is the same as any other meeting. Its just a name. Do not trust anyone with your under age minor.
  • If you are a woman with small children do not trust an AA man with your toddlers. There are many pedophiles in AA now.

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A GOOD RULE : TREAT AA and NA people like you would any other stranger. Do not give them a pass because they are sober in AA and preach a good talk. Do not trust them sooner then you would someone you meet in a grocery store. AA and NA members are not more spiritual then some knucklehead you might meet on the street.

Bellingham man, 64, charged with molesting girl at Alcoholics Anonymous meeting-Breaking NEWS-Whatcom County Jail report for March 5, 2013

Posted on March 11, 2013

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“ITS an outside issue”……This is what we heard all the time when we brought our MAKE AA SAFER PAMPHLET to meetings to get discussions started to raise awarenesss.

NEWS FLASHthis toddler was molested in a meeting. I am so sorry for these children. How many more children need to be molested by AA men in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings

read the full story : http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/03/06/2908017/bellingham-man-64-charged-with.html#storylink=cpy

Alcoholics Anonymous Member Safety Workshop in Lexington, Kentucky- local rapist loose in AA community -keeping it hush hush

Posted in 13 Stepping, AA Activism, Exposing AA, Woman's Rights, Women's Right in AA Culture by Massive on February 19, 2013

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A blogger posted this on the blog here and I am hoping to bring it into the light.

PLEASE, PLEASE if you have been raped by an AA member you must go to the police. He does not get to rape you . He will rape someone else. Anonymity has nothing to do with breaking the law. This is not what any of the traditions mean. AA literature is NOT THE LAW.  AA IS NOT THE SKULL & BONES Society folks. AA’s writings were written in the 1940′s when rapists were not allowed alone with blacks and gays and prostitutes.

This what was posted:

There is going to be an AA Safety “workshop” put on by the two Districts in Lexington, Kentucky AA. I found this out very recently. I was also told that this workshop is in reaction to a woman being raped locally by another member. People I know also know the identities of the rapist and the victim, and went so far as to tell me I’ve been in a meeting with the rapist and probably know him as well; but they hide behind the misused concept of anonymity and will not tell me or anyone else who this person is. It appears though that the idea of CYA for safety is becoming more visible. I am hoping some good can come of it, at least the idea of there being a problem is starting to surface.

Killing of 12-step (Narcotics Anonymous) program sponsor raised fears

Posted in 13 Stepping, AA Activism, Alcoholics Anonymous, Exposing AA, Narcotics Anonymous by Massive on February 2, 2013

FRIENDS SAY MAN ARRESTED IN MURDER HAD BEEN sponsored BY THE VICTIM – He was and is NOT A COUNSELOR. NO ONE IN AA IS A TRAINED PROFESSIONAL. AA HAS NO TRAINED FACILITATORS AT ALL!

By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
cwootson@charlotteobserver.com
Posted: Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2013
  • Charles Michael Middleton

The man accused of killing Charles Middleton at his south Charlotte home Saturday morning was a man he’d sponsored while involved in a Narcotics Anonymous program years ago, people close to the situation say.

On Monday, Christopher Paul Huffman was taken into custody in Casa Grande, Ariz., more than 2,000 miles from the scene of the shooting on Elmhurst Road in the Sedgefield neighborhood adjacent to Dilworth.

Charlotte-Mecklenburg homicide detectives traveled to Arizona on Monday to interview Huffman, who had no criminal record. Police have not divulged a possible motive in the killing or said whether Middleton’s sponsorship work with Huffman made him a target.

It’s unclear how many people Middleton sponsored in his two decades with 12-step programs in Charlotte. He was one of the longest-tenured members of his weekly meeting group, which was made up of gay men who are also recovering addicts, friends said.

Middleton took leadership roles and engaged other members, chatting over coffee before the meetings or at dinner afterward. He asked people to call him “Mike,” an abbreviation of his middle name. He freely doled out his cell phone number, friends said.

He was semi-retired but still worked part time in credit and collections. He doted on his two cats and had also recently started taking theater appreciation classes at Central Piedmont Community College. Middleton and his friends regularly bought season tickets to plays at the college.

Details of the interactions between Middleton and Huffman were still hazy on Wednesday. Two people who knew Middleton – both of whom asked for anonymity – say the two men met at a 12-step meeting about four years ago. At some point, Huffman asked Middleton to sponsor him. For a while in 2008, they both lived a few doors down from each other on Ardmore Road in Sedgefield.

But their interactions over the next four years are unclear.

“We don’t know why and we don’t know the story behind what happened,” said a Narcotics Anonymous member. “We do know Mike has sponsored and helped a lot of people. … He’d extend his hand to a total stranger at times.”

But for some people involved in local 12-step programs, the link reminded them of the need for caution in dealing with troubled addicts. “It is almost a sacred thing. These are people who so freely give of themselves,” said a Narcotics Anonymous member who declined to give his name because the association frowns on speaking to the press. “How do they know that the people who we are trying to help are not going to do us harm?”

For recovering addicts, sponsorship is a complicated, but close relationship. A sponsor helps a person navigate some of the harder steps of recovery: making amends to people who’ve been harmed, conducting what Narcotics Anonymous calls “a searching and fearless inventory of ourselves,” and sharing a story of addiction with others.

But members say there are few solid rules about sponsorship in the global organization, which says it holds 61,800 weekly meetings in 129 countries. While members encourage frankness on the path to recovery, the organization is often tight-lipped with outsiders and the media about the details of sponsorship.

In a three-page pamphlet on sponsorship, the Narcotics Anonymous organization recommends frequent communication, and discourages romantic entanglements. But it’s unclear if the organization offers sponsors advice on how to protect themselves from the ill effects of another person’s addiction.

A person who answered the phone at the Metrolina Intergroup Association, a conglomeration of recovery groups in the Charlotte area, declined to comment about the relationship between Middleton and Huffman or sponsorship relationships generally.

“We have a tradition that we maintain our anonymity at the press level,” the woman said. Public relations officials with the national Narcotics Anonymous office in Van Nuys, Calif., did not return calls seeking comment.

One recovering addict in Charlotte said members are especially wary at open meetings, which involve people from all walks of life and often from unknown backgrounds.

“We’re not supposed to judge, but this is the real world,” she said. “If somebody’s making me feel uncomfortable, either I’m going to say something or I’m going or leave.”

She said there aren’t many written rules about sponsorships, but experienced sponsors encourage people to be cautious.

“It really has to be a gut instinct and you say to yourself that you’re not going to have them come to your house, you’ll meet them at Starbucks, some place public. It’s a huge deal, because people just come in off the street. We have people from jails, institutions.”

William White, a Florida researcher who’s written about the history of Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous programs, said it’s unlikely that one incident will spark widespread change.

“Anytime something like this breaks publicly, there’s a period of soul searching in organizations like this in general,” White said. “Safety is not an issue that comes up across the board except in the aftermath.”

STAFF RESEARCHER MARIA DAVID AND STAFF WRITERS ANDREW DUNN AND ELISABETH ARRIERO CONTRIBUTED.

Wootson: 704-358-5046; Twitter: @CleveWootson

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What Does the Word “Spirituality” Mean To You? Has AA Ruined This Simple Word For You?

Posted on January 5, 2013

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality

Spirituality is the concept of an ultimate or an alleged immaterial reality;[1] an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of his/her being; or the “deepest values and meanings by which people live.”[2] Spiritual practices, including meditationprayer and contemplation, are intended to develop an individual’s inner life.

Somehow this description does NOT sound like AA to me…does it to you?

Long before I attended my first AA meeting at age 18, I was praying and reading spiritual books. Books about God and Buddha. Many of us in the 1970′s were pouring over writings by Herman Hesse who penned Steppenwolf and Siddhartha and the poet Kahlil Gibran author of The Profit. As the smoke curled up from the joints in the ash tray in my old apartment in New York City, I knew as we  contemplated the meaning of life and what reality really was …..LOL …that God was not something you just ‘made up’ . We  painted pictures of angels on my bedroom wall with watercolors and listened to Jethro Tull, Cat Stevens, John Lennon and Led Zepplin depending on our mood.

I was raised Catholic and loved going to mass as a kid and singing hymns. I loved wearing my white gloves and early morning mass attendance during Lent. Prayers like The Apostle’s Creed in Latin, The Lords’ Prayer I had memorized all by the age of 7 and I got an A in Catechism.

So, where did I go wrong in buying into this made up honkey, mumbo jumbo, fake religion  of Alcoholics Anonymous, posing as a new thought, self help, reality of progressive arm chair pychology of the1970′s. The counterculture of the 1960′s spilled into the 70′s that then gave birth to the New Age religions that grew into many new cults.

Telling us teens things like, “take what you like and leave the rest” , Identify …don’t compare” was what I see now as extreme manipulation. The longer I am gone from AA …the madder I get sometimes.

WTF!

So with the challenge of courts and lawsuits that have already found AA a religion, I am stunned and horrifed. What religion tells the women , “what’s your part in it “when a man sexually harasses or rapes her?

AA clearly states it is not a religion. In the preamble it says,

“A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution;”…..really?

So when it’s convenient for them, its not a religion, but when it serves them… it is? Which is it. The 4th and 9th Circuit Court of appeals has already deemed AA a religion. If it is… it is a really sick f#####king religion that Aetna, Blue Cross and Kaiser need to know about before they pay for someone’s help with the rehabilitation from alcohol or drug overuse.

This is the next stage of activism we can all do eventually.

If the person who is non religious was sent by their Dr’s or an EAP ( employee assistance  program ) or Professional Therapist …I think it will be a slam dunk of a lawsuit.

Think about it.

But I guess there are two points to this post.

1) That clearly AA and Bill WIlson just made up a stupid fake religion calling it a fellowship back then in the 1930′s. Today, its called a program. People are mislead and think there are trained leaders and professionals there. There is no such thing.

In fact there is a high percentage of dangerous criminals there targeting vulnerable unsuspecting members. I have read in numerous news articles, judges actually telling a criminal /and or citizen to get a “sponsor , as if the “sponsor ” is trained like a priest or therapist. This is also not true.

In fact many sponsors give much bad and hurtful advice and after years can be know to power trip and think they should run the sponsees life in all areas, even if they are failures in their own careers and have no marriage or successful relationships.

My final point here is this…

2) That Health Insurance Companies have been boon swindled into thinking AA is a ….what… what do they think AA is? A religion? If not, do they think its a new age think tank for alcoholics of the variety from the dark ages? Shall we begin to let blood again.

Or should  we all call our health insurance companies and tell them what is really going on in AA and that they should no longer pay for rehabs who are 12 step based and drive their clients to meetings or… we will sue them, that the parents of murdered children  will sue them….

Mixing our medicine, a religion, a cult and a made up archaic program from the 30′s sounds like a recipe for disaster.

If we can get to our media, our entertainment, our Insurance Companies and our community to see this truth, we will be on our way to get science back into medicine where it belongs and to throw the cults out the window and pray that AA will be successfully sued like The Catholic Church for sexual pedophilia.

Man sues psychotherapist for drug relapse following sexual exploitation

Posted in Uncategorized by Massive on January 8, 2013

Posted on January 6, 2013

New blogger I leftalready just wrote this link  on blog www.leavingaa.com and I think it is very important for everyone to see. More people need to sue for this.

CHICAGO (CN) – A drug abuser claims in court that he suffered a relapse after his female counselor invited him to her house and had sex with him on the day he was discharged.

Michael Fleming and his wife sued Stacy Lott and Gateway Foundation in Cook County Court.

Fleming claims he was treated for three weeks this year at the Gateway Foundation for drug and cocaine dependence.

His counselor, Lott, “was a ‘psychotherapist’ pursuant to the Sexual Exploitation in Psychotherapy Act,” a state law, according to the complaint. He claims that “the defendant, Stacy Lott, was providing ‘psychotherapy’ to the plaintiff”.

Fleming says he “asked the defendant, Stacy Lott, if he could get another psychotherapist/counselor due to the fact that she was attractive, and it was a distraction for him.”

“During the aforesaid conversation, the defendant Stacy Lott, stated that she found him attractive as well, but that she wished to remain his counselor, because she thought she could help the plaintiff, Michael Fleming.”

Lott remained Fleming’s counselor and told him that his wife, Lisa Aprati, was “‘too controlling’ and bad for his recovery,” Fleming says in the complaint.

He claims that Lott also “would escort the plaintiff, Michael Fleming, outside for a cigarette break and while returning would ask him for a hug and a kiss, which then occurred.”

“Stacy Lott asked the plaintiff, Michael Fleming, to stay at her apartment the night of February 8, 2012, which was his discharge date from the Gateway Foundation’s inpatient treatment program,” the complaint states.

“Plaintiff, Michael Fleming, did stay at defendant Stacy Lott’s apartment on the night of February 8, 2012, and they had sexual relations.”

Since then, Fleming says, he “has been required to undergo counseling, and he has suffered a relapse in his attempts to deal with his cocaine and alcohol dependency, and he has expended sums of money for counseling, has lost time from his employment, and he has lost other gains he otherwise would have realized.”

He claims the Gateway Foundation knew Lott had inappropriate relationships with patients and did nothing to protect its patients.

He seeks damages for sexual exploitation, negligent supervision, and psychotherapist malpractice.

He is represented by Edmund Scanlan.

(Psychotherapists are M.D.s and/or Ph.Ds. Lott is not referred to as a doctor in the complaint.)

Were You 13 Stepped “AA Alcoholics Anonymous Style” by Doug Allman in Hawaii in the1970′s or by Someone like him?

Posted in 13 Stepping, AA Activism, Exposing AA, Woman's Rights, Women's Right in AA Culture by Massive on December 23, 2012

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In the 1970′s there was an AA member named Doug Allman age 26 in Kailua, Hawaii who 13 stepped many young woman. I was 18 and barely aware of what AA and its culty culture was all about. I was one of many young woman he 13 stepped over the next decade or two. So,  were you one of the 500 or so woman sexually harassed by him? He played guitar, sang Kenny Loggins songs, drove a black convertable, had  long wavy brown hair,  a beard,  could massage you while you discussed the Big Book, he knew the program in and out and he worked for a Drug rehab program in Honolulu. Although in his early years he was not highly educated, it was later he got his degree. SO in the early years he used the fact that he in was in AA/NA to throw his weight around. Basically no dates for free sex for mr AA. Better know as the non relationship man.

He would make friends with newcomer women coming out of St Francis Women Alcohol Treatment Center in Honolulu. He would move them into his place for about 6 weeks, get sick of them then throw them out when he was done with them.

He was a user. Many oldtimers knew what he was doing. A few confronted him. Most blamed the young women and asked them the stupid AA question of the year. “What’s your part in it”. Looking back now, I realized I was 18 …he was 26. He was 5 years sober. I had 2 weeks. I knew nothing about AA.

38 years later I realize I had no part in it. I was young. I was naive. I wanted to hang out with people who didn’t drink. WHAT A PRICE TO PAY. I should have become a Muslim or a Buddhist. Oh well.

If you were 13 stepped by him or any man or women back in the 1970′s and 80′s, or any time in this century, by a person who was well respected, had 5 or more years clean time/sober, was older then you were, we would love to hear your story, how you coped and how you are today. Oh yea, and have you too left AA/NA.

There is a Documentary Film dealing with this subject in the making. There is also a journalist interested in any stories to be told. Up front, close and personal….no hiding in the shadows anymore . No anonymous Bullshit anymore. No using the AA name to play these games of harassment and sexual predation under the radar of made up spirituality.

Have You Been Sexually Harassed, Assaulted, Molested or Raped by an AA Member?

Posted on December 11, 2012

The time to come forward is now.

There are two News Reporters, one at a Major network and another who has contacted a Journalist working behind the scenes on the problems really going on in AA and how women are being treated.

Many have contacted me directly on my other blogs.

Either way if you have been hurt and are willing to speak they want to talk to you. Please contact me at info@mysaferecovery.com.

You might also want to know that AA is being sued and it is a very strong case. There is finally an ATTORNEY in Los Angeles who will do it and she understands the LAW and how AA tried to wiggle around and under it with its ridiculous traditions.

Please if you know someone who has been harmed and they are  ready to talk, please  give them my information.
Thanks.

Please help stop the silence that has been going on in 12 step for ever….no women needs to be murdered, raped, molested and sexually harassed by AA men ever again. Stop The Silence…

Another convicted rapist sentenced to AA- Isn’t This A BAD Idea?

Posted in Exposing AA by Massive on November 27, 2012
Apr 10, 2012 - 1 comments

A 29-year-old man will be under house arrest for a year and a half after pleading guilty to raping his first cousin.Justice Leigh Gower noted the offender’s deep remorse when giving the sentence on Friday, including the young man’s own testimony of wishing “he could take it all back.”The offender, whose identity is protected, returned to Whitehorse on his own accord in December to deal with the charge.He was an employed truck driver in the Alberta tarsands.

He pleaded guilty in territorial court on January 13 and was arrested for impaired driving at the Range Road intersection 10 days later.

The sexual assault charge was laid in December 2009.

The incident happened in August of that year, after the offender and victim, who also has her identity protected, spent a night drinking in Whitehorse.

Both were drunk and took a taxi to an apartment owned by their aunt.

After it appears they broke into the apartment, the victim fell asleep, said Gower in his decision.

“(She) awoke to find her jeans had been removed and the zipper had been broken. The offender was holding her down and having sexual intercourse with her. The victim was crying and repeatedly told the offender to stop, but he continued going “harder” (to use the victim’s description), causing her pain. Eventually, the victim passed out.”

The sentencing of 18-months house arrest and two years probation includes the conditions the offender cannot have contact with the victim and he must regularly attend Alcoholic Anonymous meetings.

Gower noted the man’s dysfunctional upbringing, surrounded by his family of residential school survivors who suffered from alcoholism in Old Crow.

Despite that upbringing, the offender graduated high school, achieved numerous industrial work certificates and has been “more or less consistently employed from then until now,” said Gower, who wished him the best in his future on Friday.

http://yukon-news.com/news/22540/

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Mason High School teacher Stacy Schuler faces sexual battery charges

Posted in 13 Stepping, AA Activism by Massive on November 16, 2012

Woman predators are often let out sooner as in this case. Beware if you let your son go to an AA or NA meeting. It is just NOT SAFE!

MASON – Mason High school teacher was indicted Friday on 19 felony counts of sexual battery involving male students, including some football players.

Stacy Schuler, a health and physical education teacher, is also charged with three misdemeanor counts of serving alcohol to an underage person. She has been a teacher and athletic trainer at the high school since 2000.

She has been on paid administrative leave since Jan. 18.

“A teacher is a person with authority over students,” said Chief Assistant Warren County Prosecutor Bruce McGary.

McGary said Schuler had sexual contact with male students on five occasions in 2010. The nature of the sexual contact was not explained.

Schuler, 32, turned herself in at the Warren County jail Friday afternoon and is being held without bond pending a bond hearing next week. She is scheduled for arraignment on Feb. 25 in Warren County Common Pleas Court.

read full story here...http://news.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20110204/NEWS0107/302040091/Mason-High-School-teacher-Stacy-Schuler-faces-sexual-battery-charges

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